Hi
It’s quite funny reading some of the things that the Muslims are saying, all this stuff about three gods Christians don’t believe in three gods. I have already sent some verses to someone about the trinity being involved in the resurrection. Gal 1:1 the Father. John 2:19-21 The Son. Romans 8:11 The Holy Spirit.
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Hey,nice blog check out this great seminar by Michael Licona,he really wrestled with the idea of whether the resurrection happened or not,he had his real doubts,it has alot of technical information you will love,it is “Proofs of the resurrection”,it has 12 parts,each like 1 hour long:
Greetings dc
you wrote:
The previous verses are dealing with Balak trying to get Balaam to curse the people of Israel and the verse you quote is God sending Balaam back to Barak with a parable.
The point…God will always keep his word and carry through what he said he would do. Which is som ething man is not very good at, we break our word sometimes without thinking.”
i was going to ask you about what you thought of the jewish rendition of the words in hebrew:
The short answers to your two questions are: Their claim is not linguistically correct, and other passages in the Hebrew Bible provide the proof.
The first problem with the verses you quoted is that the translations aren’t accurate. Before I provide you with better translations, let me point out that there are no “perfect” translations. Here are the two passages in a better translation from the Hebrew –
Numbers 23:19(JPT) – God is not a man that He should lie, nor is He a mortal that He should relent. Would He say and not do, speak and not fulfill?
1 Samuel 15:29(JPT) – And also, the Eternal One of Israel will neither lie nor repent, for He is not a human to repent.”
The additional passages from the Hebrew Bible should leave no doubt that God is not a man. First, in God’s own words –
Hosea 11:9 – I will not execute the kindling of My anger, I will not return to destroy Ephraim, for I am God and not a man. In your midst is the Holy One, and I will not enter a city.
Then, Job makes the comparison –
Job 9:32 – For He is not man, as I am, that I should answer Him, ‘Let us come together in debate.’
Job continues the comparison –
Job 10:4-5 – (4) Do You have eyes of flesh, or do You see as a man sees? (5) Are Your days like the days of a mortal, or are Your years like the days of a man?
Finally, when you combine these passages with what God Himself declares –
Malachi 3:6 – For I, the Lord, have not changed; and you, the sons of Jacob, have not perished.
It naturally follows that God would never become (change into) a man.
it actually says . , , לֹא אִישׁ אֵל וִיכַזֵּב lo ish él viy’chazzév, which translates literally as “God is not a man and he will lie”; but this is clearly not the intended meaning and the fourth word of the verse has to be read in the sense of a rhetorical question, e.g. “God is not a man—how can you possibly think that He would tell lies???!!!” The whole verse says
לֹ֣א אִ֥ישׁ אֵל֙ וִֽיכַזֵּ֔ב
וּבֶן־אָדָ֖ם וְיִתְנֶחָ֑ם
הַה֤וּא אָמַר֙ וְלֹ֣א יַֽעֲשֶׂ֔ה
וְדִבֶּ֖ר וְלֹ֥א יְקִימֶֽנָּה׃
“God is not a man—would He ever lie?
Nor is He a person—would He ever feel regret?
Does He ever say [something] and not do [it],
Or speak and not keep His word?” (B’midbar 23:19)
There is a clue to the verse’s real meaning in its second half, where the rhetorical question is explicit (the word הַהוּא hahu is interrogative); and, if there were any doubt, the prophet Sh’muél repeats the same idea to King Sha’ul in very similar words when he tells him
וְגַם֙ נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר וְלֹ֣א יִנָּחֵ֑ם
כִּ֣י לֹ֥א אָדָ֛ם ה֖וּא לְהִנָּחֵֽם׃
“And, what’s more, Yisraél’s Eternal One will not lie and will not feel regret,
for He is not a man to feel regret!” (Sh’muél Alef 15:29)
“Does He ever say [something] and not do [it],
Or speak and not keep His word?” (B’midbar 23:19)”
remember that catholic pagan you and i were debating on calling christians? look what he said about your god in flesh
““Go to the feast yourselves; I am not going up to this feast, for my time has not yet fully come.” So saying, he remained in Galilee. But after his brothers had gone up to the feast, then he also went up, not publicly but in private.” (John 7:8-10)”
catholic pagan polythiest wrote:
“As for the other verse jesus simply changed his mind once his disciples went”
how dc
paul and peter made lots of money selling the crucified failure god
look here
to have such a position like “the rock of church” needs lots of flow of cash
http://sandwichesforsale.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/answering-questio
n.html
“the Bible records Peter as having a leadership role in a movement so influential, the very High Priest in Jerusalem is bent on wiping it out, yet conversely want to claim Peter did not gain status by being such a leader?”
“Peter could not just list his house in Galilee, sell it, and move to another country and buy another house with the proceeds. Further, if he did receive a house in Jerusalem through contributions, (not to mention food, clothing, etc.) this would be far greater financial status than he had in Galilee.”
Hi Mansubzero
What on earth are you talking about?
you wrote:
What don’t you read the bible properly and deal with things in context.
Exodus 17:14 (KJV)
14 And the LORD said unto Moses, Write this for a memorial in a book, and rehearse it in the ears of Joshua: for I will utterly put out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven.
Deuteronomy 25:17-19 (KJV)
17 Remember what Amalek did unto thee by the way, when ye were come forth out of Egypt;
18 How he met thee by the way, and smote the hindmost of thee, even all that were feeble behind thee, when thou wast faint and weary; and he feared not God.
19 Therefore it shall be, when the LORD thy God hath given thee rest from all thine enemies round about, in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance to possess it, that thou shalt blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven; thou shalt not forget it.
Notice verse 18…even ALL that were feeble behind thee
Now if you deal with things in context you will see that it was the Amalek that was killing all the women and children and sick and weak…FIRST.
dc, where is the proof that amaleck was gang raping your gods children? if they murdered israel’s children how did the CHILDREN survive , grow up and receive new revealation from yhwh about killing all of amalek children? dc, why do you not KNOW the bible?
dc, bible says children are INNOCENT
Deuteronomy 1:34 When Yahweh heard what you said, he was angry and solemnly swore: 35 “Not a man of this evil generation shall see the good land I swore to give your forefathers, 36 except Caleb son of Jephunneh. He will see it, and I will give him and his descendants the land he set his feet on, because he followed Yahweh wholeheartedly.” 37 Because of you Yahweh became angry with me also and said, “You shall not enter it, either. 38 But your assistant, Joshua son of Nun, will enter it. Encourage him, because he will lead Israel to inherit it. 39 And the little ones that you said would be taken captive, your children who do not yet know good from bad–they will enter the land. I will give it to them and they will take possession of it.”
dc, why COULDN’T baaalway PRESERVE amalek children when gods right hand man called moses said that CHILDREN DO NOT KNOW EVIL?
dc, were amalek as bad as baalways children?
1 Samuel 30:1 Then it happened when David and his men came to Ziklag on the third day, that the Amalekites had made a raid on the Negev and on Ziklag, and had overthrown Ziklag and burned it with fire; 2 and they took captive the women and all who were in it, both small and great, without killing anyone, and carried them off and went their way. 3 When David and his men came to the city, behold, it was burned with fire, and their wives and their sons and their daughters had been taken captive.
dc, WHY did amalek show MORE mercy that baalway’s children? the old testament says that theY DIDN’T kill “ANYONE”
dc, do you think you will not get CAUGHT for the FRAUD you right?
dc, why is yhwhway giving his children command to ko amalek children FOR THE crimes of thier ANCESTORS? what did children, who according to the bible ,”do not yet know good from bad…” do to make them RESPONSIBLE for CRIMES of their amalek ancestors? why did jesus, father and spirit HOLD the children RESPONSIBLE for the crime of their ancestors?
dc , you cannot prove that the amalek did a COMPLETE anihalation of the jews because if they did, yhwh would have to make brand new children for himself.
dc, yhwh PUNISHES the amalek FOR ONE MAIN REASON AND THAT IS A PUNISHMENT on what the ancestors of the amalek did to yhwhs CHOOSEN ones, but the amalek made DAMN sure not to kill yhwhs children children’s , otherwise israel would have been EXTINCT.
dc, i can prove that yhwh’ children did GENOCIDE on the amalek
ACCORDING TO THE ot, saul was moving through city to city and koing the amalekites in their multiple settlements.
….FROM HALIVAH AS FAR AS SHUR WHICH IS EAST OF EGYPT…
IN THE old testament if the amalekite TOUCHED animals, then the animals would have to be slaughtered.
if the children were born of amalekites , then the children would have to be slaughtered.
you are a cheap apologists dc. you have no defense of your krist.
Hi bro
If children are innocent then why do babies die without the help of a man killing them?
hello bro
God chose them to be human? yes? so lets assume they died 10 minutes after birth. who chose them to be human? did they choose? did they choose to be infected by original sin? can they be guilty of choosing original sin and dying few minutes after birth?
all i am asking, did the baby, who died 10 minutes AFTER birth , CHOOSE to be human and did IT’S choice MAKE it GUILTY of choosing to be ORIGINAL sin infected human?
dc, i am sure you won’t get this information from blogs like paul a willaims. you even accuse williams of not knowing the bible. i think becuase williams is just like you.
“Now if you deal with things in context you will see that it was the Amalek that was killing all the women and children and sick and weak…FIRST”
dc, please don’t make dumb a ss comments like this. the DEATH rate of children BACK THEN WOULD HAVE BEEN GREATER than now. if the amalek’s were KOING the children like israel was KOING and “leaving NOTHING ALIVE to breath” children “WHO DO NOT YET KNOW EVIL” , then yhwh would NEED TO RECREATE BRAND new choosen ones. i proved to you that the amaleks, according to the bible, DID NOT follow israel’s hitlerian style of attack. why are you blind?
in you ot CAN YOU PROVE that amalekites WENT TO DIFFERENT SETTLEMENTS, LIKE SAUL, AND took out women and children? YOU CAN NEVER DO THAT dc, you CAN ONLY twist ot to support your claim.
ON YOUR BLOG i tell U TO YOUR FACE that yhwh told saul to KILL CHILDREN who “who do not yet know good from bad…”
you NEVER gonna find INFORMATION like this on williams blog so you should than k me for showing you what williams cannot
okay, arrange a time and date and lets box in hyde park. because i am ready to smash your teeth in.
?
you seem to have the same intelligence as this christian here
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=-k5LjXGgLuQ
if that is you, then can you tell me?
Edward
Smash my teeth in…I don’t think so. I can be there Saturday afternoon at 5pm I will be wearing a green barber jacket.
what’s your name
by the way you “defended” your gods abuse of the poor canaanite woman , i can assume that you and the black guy in the video are the same person, right?
Hey Edward
You just proved you don’t know how to read the bible. Where did Jesus say to the woman she is a dog?
It is the woman who IDENTIFIED herself with what Jesus said.
And no I’m not the little young black guy in the video.
“it is not right to take the children’s bread and cast it to the dogs”
okay, i don’t know how to read the bible
who required a miracle?
her DAUGHTER
who did jesus call “dogs”
her ill DAUGHTER
and her people
and she was part of her fukin people
which means she was called “dogs”
the woman IDEntified herself with “what jesus said”
BECAUSE jesus DIRECTLY addressed HER!
she required a cure for her ill daughter and the only way to change jesus’ mind was for her to agree to what jesus said about her people, herself and her daughter (collective attack)
after she heard what he wanted to hear
he says
“woman for such a reply…”
meaning the reply made jesus change his mind .
what we learn from this is that a helpless woman has to impress jesus with clever words.
she has to accept that she is a SLAVE OF OTHER human fukin beings . she has to accept her low status as human being
she has to publicly declare it
and then jesus helps her.
can i ask why is it that experts who read the greek say that the woman is identified as an animal by jesus krist. even the christian feminist scholars say
“sharon ringe observes that ‘ TO COMPARE A WOMAN AND HER DAUGHTER TO DOGS IS INSULTING IN THE EXTREME’
you said “you just proved you don’t know how to read the bible…”
but this is your disgusting christian arrogance
how can you accuse me of this when scholars are reading the text like me?
why?
why the fukin arrogance?
”
If children are innocent then why do babies die without the help of a man killing them?”
if a baby dies through mother nature then that implies babies are not innocent?
Babies die for many reasons.
Death came into the world through Adam but of course Muslims don’t believe that.
are babies who DIE at birth INNOCENT ?
your proper name
“Death came into the world through Adam but of course Muslims don’t believe that.”
death came into the world because god brought it into EXISTENCE.
“Death came into the world through Adam but of course Muslims don’t believe that.”
death came into the world because your god was afraid that adam would grab an apply from the tree of life and become immortal like him.
how did adam know it was wrong listening to his wife when he didn’t know what wrong and right was and according to christianity adam was perfect creation of god?
you make your god like yeshua. yeshua curses a fig tree because it was doing correct job by not producing figs in the wrong season.
adam was doing a correct job because perfect creation cannot choose incorrectly and they definitely cannot choose incorrectly when they don’t know what wrong and right is.
quote:
22Now the Lord God said, “Behold man has become like one of us, having the ability of knowing good and evil, and now, lest he stretch forth his hand and take also from the Tree of Life and eat and live forever.”
LIKE one of us i.e aquired knowledge of what is wrong and evil. but before this no knowledge
and god got afraid that had adam grabbed an apple, he would have not only know what is wrong and right but lived forever. lol
Hey Edward
There is nothing arrogant about what I said…let me repeat myself.
Jesus spoke about his present ministry to the Jews…nothing wrong as this was not all of his mission.
Secondly he said it was not right to give the children bread to the dogs.
The word dog is used all over the bible…
Matthew 7:6 sinners that value the message of God are described as dogs and pigs.
Phil 3:1 impure men that teach falsely
Deut 23:18 don’t bring the price of a dog…male Cultic prostitute into the house of the Lord.
2 Kings 8:13 Hazael describes the action of a ruthless killer of women and children and babies as a dog.
Psalms 22:16 those that surrounded Jesus while he was on the cross are described as dogs.
Jesus is using terminology that this woman understood and she identified herself with it, in doing so she was able to get a miracle for her daughter.
Please read this carefully and not replying swearing
if you did not have the ending of matthew, you would not know of ANY “present ministry”
the guy outright says , (even when no gentiles are around)
go ONLY to the lost sheep. that you have jesus saying stuff like “i have not found greater faith even in israel…”
“women great is your faith” indicates that a gentile had changed or added to these stories.
“Jesus spoke about his present ministry to the Jews…nothing wrong as this was not all of his mission.”
it was all of his missing. you know how i know this?
notice that after the woman changed his mind, he did not tell her how to get saved
he did not give her guidance
he did not invite make her equal to her masters (children of yhwh)
“The word dog is used all over the bible…”
the purpose is to make the human feel low and humanless i.e an animal
animal without reason and an animal which eats its own shit
the thing is that jesus is not one who puts compassion and love before tradition and yhwhs children.
“Matthew 7:6 sinners that value the message of God are described as dogs and pigs.”
but the WOMAN did not devalue “message of god”
she did not insult
she did not curse
“Jesus is using terminology that this woman understood and she identified herself with it, in doing so she was able to get a miracle for her daughter.”
sorry mate but she did not understand this.
she came like a human approached jesus
jairus came
the woman with blood problem rudely stole a miracle from jesus
a gentile DOG in lukes account is given help PROMPTLY because he does favours for the jews
i can use todays terminology and call women little bitches, i am identifying them with female dogs
such identification is rude, insulting and evil
even in the bible , yhwh does not tell the hebrews to call good gentiles dogs and pigs
the hebrew bible in this regard set a better example than jesus krist.
jesus DIRECTLY addressed her.
” it is not right to take the childrens bread and cast it to the dogs”
since she wants to take the bread, shouldn’t she and her daughter be the RECIPIENT ?
is it not possible to indirectly address someone through 3rd person language?
even she uses the 3rd person language when she says that dogs (her ILL daughter ) will benefit from waste.
jesus krist, “son of god”
called an ill gentile girl a “little bitch”
how can you love such a person ?
and don’t oppressed agree with oppressors to win some small favour?
“Jesus is using terminology that this woman understood and she identified herself with it, in doing so she was able to get a miracle for her daughter.”
but he DID not ANSWER her a word
she KNELT….and said ….
jesus replied :
it is not FAIR to take the childrens bread and cast it to the dogs
remember this would be including her ILL gentile daughter
A CHILD
A SICK child
many time jesus’ uses 3rd person LANGUAGE to address the people who LISTEN!
if many called a lady a bitch and then all she heard in her life was “bitch”
she came to me for help
and i replied , ” it is not right to takes the childrens bread and cast it to the bitches”
admit that if this came from me, you would call me a sinner
why would your “saviour” use INSULTING teminology and narrate it to a DESPERATE woman who sought help?
dc, why do experts who read the text SAY that the woman and her daughter are called “dogs”
what can’t the experts see that you can?
you rudely said that i misread the bible
but i am only quoting your own scholars who are reading it like me.
so why the christian arrogance?
quote :
You just proved you don’t know how to read the bible. Where did Jesus say to the woman she is a dog?
end quote
SRI LANKAN scholar
rajini wickramatra rebera :
many scholars, theologians and preachers attempt to MINIMISE the impact of jesus’ response to her, since the image of jesus one sees in this incident does not fit the inherited image we have of him as the ‘kind , understanding , ever-helpful savior’
did the sri lankan scholar prove that she does not know how to read the bible?
how come you ARROGANTLY claimed “you don’t know how to read the bible..”
does rajini wickramatra rebera know how to read the bible?
“Here you again please quote me what Jesus was hypocritical about”
do you see what kind of a joke you are?
“it is not what goes into your mouth what defiles, but what comes out of it”
jesus, by his own STANDARD IS A HYPOCRITE!
i’m sorry my brother.
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